Australian INfront

Oh, Lorena this is such a poor post from you. The standards of posts on this website has been down ever since its old version and this is such a poor choice of editing. This Jamie person is no more than a delinquent, voyeuristic 'club' kid with immature skills and self-presentation. He even cried wolf when Another Magazine's website used one of his RAFW photographs when he should have been happy that something had appeared on Another which is contributed by some great industry people.

I have to say that the professional standards locally particularly the relationships between individuals and 'well-known' fashion magazines here are too partial and excessive self-indulgence. We don't need another Olivier Zahm who thinks it's quite appropriate for women to drop their clothes at his discretion.

Sorry you feel that way MLK14. I happen to think that what Jamie does takes a great degree of skill. Anyone can turn up at a fashion event and attempt to take photos but only a skilled photographer can capture a decent image in the madness of models racing down a catwalk, sitting in a poorly lit room and also not even sitting in the photographers pit (I saw Jamie frequently sitting several rows behind the first row at several shows).

When it comes to his street photography, again anyone can take 'street style' shots. It takes a skilled eye to approach a random person off the street and take a decent picture of them in less than a minute. If you visit Jamie's site you will see that many of his street shots are actually taken of moving images. Again - this takes skill.

With regards to Another Magazine appropriating his images; I wholeheartedly support Jamie. He made the effort to attend the fashion show, take several hundred images, edit through the best ones - only to have another website pilfer the image from his website and use it without asking for permission and without giving him the photo credit. When he queried them about the use of his work, they took down the image and nothing further was said.

I think it is healthy to agree to disagree about the creative or artistic merit of any work. However I don't think that it's necessary to launch a personal attack on a young man who I know works incredibly hard to gather the content for his website.

With regards to your belief that the standards of the posts on this website are down since it's old version: I'm sorry that you feel that way. Personally, I think Australian INfront is doing a great job of representing the breadth of Australian creative work. I'm sure it's not going to please everyone - but then no one is being forced to visit.

Your point about the quality of posts falling on AIF is nonsense. We had barely any original editorial content created for AIF in the past, and even linking to external sites was spasmodic at best.

He even cried wolf when Another Magazine's website used one of his RAFW photographs when he should have been happy that something had appeared on Another which is contributed by some great industry people.

Care to define cry wolf?

MLK14, as a great contributor to this site of a massive 4 posts, your opinion isn't valid.

JubbJubb that's not helpful at all.

slow down folks

he has an opinion, it's an open forum and therefore what makes his points not valid and to that end mine or yours too?

i make no comment on the photographer as i do not relate any of that kind of thing, never did

he (and i'm only guessing that MLK14 is a he) could have edited his post to sound a little less aggressive though and helped create a thread with valid points and a calmer atmosphere prevailed and a discussion started

This is something I have had simmering for a long time now and I have always felt to be diplomatic in my opinions but when our local industry is small and insular in some ways and when there is not the multi-diversity in publications particularly in fashion, the degree of professionalism in presentation whether in images or in personal manners is just deteriorating. Since when have we lost the notion of savior faire and that a magazine editor should choose to be so candidly partial to this person? Where's the idea of self-respect and some set professional boundaries? I'm probably more appalled my feelings towards this is because it is shown here on AIF. I usually don't mind the website on its regular contributions to members as overall it's better to have AIF presence than none at all, Jamie shoudn't have warrant this kind of post. But this is my personal opinion. It's either lacking maturity or seemingly unbridled freedom. If he showed a little decency than I wouldn't mind. But maybe what he lacks is also a lack in quality of writing and images made by Oyster.

MLK14

eloquent

stick around

eloquent

You think? I've read it several times now and I can't work out what MLK14 is upset about? Is it about the style of photography, Jamie himself or content on AIF?

I agree Damo. He's just discovered the Thesaurus and is going nuts.