Posted 27.01.2016 @ 11.33PM
Thanks for the life story guys - that's exactly what the original poster wanted: Your life story.
What was learnt is that you're both washed up 'vets' who had your heyday in the 70s.
According to prior posts - in your own words:
- One of you got fed up with it all - (couldn't get along with others), so moved overseas.
- The other one had their Australian working visa rejected. Because you could never work here, the next closest thing is AIF. Fair enough I guess.
You're both nice guys - and the only reason I point out your background, is that you're in no position to offer career advice. Let alone advice about the current status about working in Australia.
In fact - neither am I.
Getting legal and career advice from strangers from the internet is never a good idea. Professing to be an expert and giving bad advice is even worse.
My role here is to point this out.
Anyway, let's all resume giving the original poster an emotion massage. I mean, how we feel about ourselves is more important after all.
Posted 26.01.2016 @ 11.13AM
Dave, Scotty - none of you work full time
Dave, Scotty - none of you work in Australia
Scott - are you even Australian? do you understand working culture in Australia? have you ever worked in Australia?
Both of you 'freelance'
..."I made a different decision that helps in a different way".. - we all know what that is code for.
Original poster: You'd be foolish to accept career advice over the Internet - especially those tens of thousands of kilometres away and without a clue of your circumstances.
Harden up - and just do your job. Your job isn't to be an artist. Learn the commercial environment and follow instructions. Or just leave and become a checkout operator.
It's a job and nothing more. Take it, or leave it.
Posted 25.01.2016 @ 10.14PM
A lot of really bad advice on this thread.. especially ...
::Don't worry about only briefly staying at a role.::
You're joking right? You do realise having short stints catches up with you.
Love all the advice about "ohhh it's not your fault!"... "just do your best!!". ... "marketing people are idiots!"... .Wait, was the original poster asking for advice, or after an emotion massaging service?
Are you joking? Employer doesn't give a shit about whether it was or wasn't what you were looking for in a job.
You were employed to do a job. JUST DO IT and FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. It's really not hard.
YOU ARE A FUNCTION OF MARKETING. Have attention to detail and EXECUTE THE INSTRUCTIONS PROPERLY.
Accept that this is what commercial graphic design is.
If you don't like it - get out of the industry because you can't hack it.
Posted 05.09.2015 @ 5.13PM
I used Stitchpress and was horrified with the quality - found out later after complaining that it's printed somewhere overseas.
Digital Press are lovely people, but the quality of their foil isn't the same. I think it's only a digital foil.
Avon Graphics do great work.
Posted 24.10.2013 @ 11.38PM
As the subject says - "IN MELBOURNE".
If you're not in Melbourne - don't respond to a question specifically asking for Melbourne.
If you're not in Australia, stop **passing off being Australian** with a .com.au address.
This is NOT TAIWAN INFRONT. Keeping printing local in AUSTRALIA helps the AUSTRALIAN Creative Community.
Blah blah blah couriers. Blah blah. Go spam your advertising on a Taiwanese website.
Posted 13.09.2017 @ 7.25AM
:: And if you do have an issue with anyone's post them please do report it to us moderators ::
Booooo for censorship! @Tangerine had her rant and established herself as a staunch - if not naive - supporter of local business and @inkable defended himself and was defended. Free speech at work.
Posted 28.01.2016 @ 9.33AM
@CARLYM Some people don't have very good interpersonal skills - as @tangerine has demonstrated - but they can be very good at what they do. Maybe they are trying to pass on knowledge, maybe they are arseholes, maybe both (I used to be one of these people). You have to work that out.
My general rule is, if I'm not growing in a role and the negatives are weighing on me outside of work - I leave. At your career stage though you probably are learning regularly.
I wouldn't be too concerned about changing jobs, as others have said just say it wasn't a fit and you wanted to keep growing as a designer. It's your choice, but I'd suggest if you've gone to the effort of asking about it on a forum, it's time to look for something else.
@tangerine, something you will learn as you gain life experience is that the world is built on relationships, and emotions are an important part of this. So like it or not you will have to consider them if you want to be successful.
Posted 27.01.2016 @ 9.41PM
::I'm guessing@Tangerine is a cranky Account Manager who gets furious when the designer asks questions after receiving a "Oh I didn't have time to write it all down" brief, then expects any job to be done in half an hour at the most.::
Know the type.
I once (naively) went to an interview at an infamous company in the UK called Sports Direct.
There was even a programme on UK TV calling into question their treatment of its employees.
This is a company that will name and shame you if they think you've taken too long on the toilet over the PA, put your name on a list and give you a written warning for it.
I'll paint a picture:
It was a good cop, bad cop style thing.
Part of the interview went:
***"We do not use Mac's here apart from those two guys over there but they will not have them for much longer."***
She scowls at them.
The guys hid behind their screens.
***"We do not tollerate sickness or absence. If we consider you ill enough, we may allow you to leave to go to hospital."
"The hours are 8.30am to 5.00pm but NOBODY leaves at 5pm".***
I swear it was like something from a comedy movie. O_o
Fact is I recently gave some advice after my niece graduated as a Designer.
"You'll need to grow a thick skin, broad shoulders and occasionally suck it up but it doesn't mean you should take shit from anyone."
If people want that kind of shit they should join the army.
Posted 27.01.2016 @ 8.31PM
Hahaha, this thread has taken a turn for the hilarious.
I'm guessing @Tangerine is a cranky Account Manager who gets furious when the designer asks questions after receiving a "Oh I didn't have time to write it all down" brief, then expects any job to be done in half an hour at the most.
Posted 27.01.2016 @ 11.10AM
@TANGERINE - @SCOTTY and @DAVE have definitely provided some good information @TANGERINE - how do we know you live and work full-time in australia in a design position?
@tangerine some of what you've said is not true either
- You're joking right? You do realise having short stints catches up with you.
I've had short stints at work before, the design industry is not a complete corporate environment, some agencies actually respect that you've left jobs that didn't fit...
Ps. I haven't had any negative repercussions from short stints
- Accept that this is what commercial graphic design is.
Not everywhere is like this @TANGERINE ...
If I'm honest @TANGERINE you just sound like a massively disgruntled designer who's unhappy with their job and taking it out on others!